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Fasting Talk

Veteran health podcaster (The Livin’ La Vida Low-Carb Show, Keto Talk, Ask The Low-Carb Experts, and Low-Carb Conversations), blogger, international speaker, and bestselling author Jimmy Moore hosts this podcast featuring listener testimonials and stories about their journey using intermittent, alternate day, and extended fasting. Jimmy, along with noted Toronto-based nephrologist and fasting expert Dr. Jason Fung, is the coauthor of the 2016 international bestselling book The Complete Guide to Fasting and has years of experience and knowledge about fasting to share in these engaging conversations with everyday people perfecting the fine art of not eating. Tune in on Fridays for brand new episodes of the #1 podcast dedicated solely to the subject of fasting.
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Feb 24, 2017

Veteran health podcaster, blogger, international speaker, and bestselling author Jimmy Moore from “Livin’ La Vida Low-Carb” teams up with Toronto, Ontario Canada-based nephrologist Dr. Jason Fung from IntensiveDietaryManagement.com and Dr. Fung’s Clinical Director at his Intensive Dietary Management Program clinic Megan Ramos on this podcast dedicated to answering YOUR questions about intermittent, alternate day, and extended fasting. Jimmy and Dr. Fung are the coauthors of the 2016 international bestseller The Complete Guide to Fasting: Heal Your Body Through Intermittent, Alternate-Day, and Extended Fasting and, along with Megan, are happy to provide this podcast as an additional resource for anyone curious about going on a fast to improve their health. We love hearing from our listeners with new questions–send an email to Jimmy at livinlowcarbman@charter.net. And if you’re not already subscribed to the podcast on iTunes, then you can do that and leave a review HERE. Listen in today as Jimmy and Megan bring you the latest information about fasting and answer your questions in Episode 8.

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KEY QUOTE: “Once my weight loss began to stabilize and my body adapted, my triglyceride levels were perfect for the first time in my life.” – Megan Ramos

Here’s what Jimmy and Megan talked about in Episode 8:

Feedback from a listener:

Hi Jimmy and Megan!

You recently answered a question of mine about whether I could fast for three days on and three days off to get the autophagic results of an extended fast. I was concerned because I didn't think I could do an extended fast because of my very physical job. Well, long story short, I completed a 26-day fast running solely on water, green tea, and KetoAide (which is a blend of water, light salt for sodium and potassium, and magnesium citrate). I felt fine, had plenty of energy, needed very little sleep, watched some scary stuff come out of my body, dropped 30 pounds, and kept off 18 of it since ending the fast. I could have physically continued to fast, but it was somewhat mentally taxing more than physically—and I just lost the will to continue it. So I broke the fast with a handful of black olives and almonds and then had a nice three egg veggie omelet an hour later. Pure bliss!

Thanks again for all you guys do! Happy Fasting!

Gary

HOT TOPIC: Does fasting raise or lower your cholesterol numbers?

Hey Jimmy and Megan,

Here’s a hot topic idea for your Fasting Talk podcast. How exactly does fasting impacts your cholesterol? I’ve heard you say how it lowered your cholesterol, but my doctor said fasting would raise mine. And he was right. I had my blood lipids drawn after a 5-day water-only fast as prescribed in The Complete Guide To Fasting and my numbers were wrecked as you’ll see in my results below. I was ketogenic in the before starting fasting, so this is a shock. I would love to hearing a discussion about this on your podcast. Maybe it only works for people with already high cholesterol levels?

Here are my numbers after fasting compared with keto:

Total cholesterol 255 -- previously 197
Triglycerides 169 -- previously 84
HDL 41 -- previously 69
LDL 180 -- previously 121

Any thoughts?

Brady

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1. Is the fat-burning from a water fast equivalent to the fat-burning from being in a state of ketosis?

Hey Jimmy and Megan,

I have water fasted for 21 days and many shorter ones for spiritual reasons. I know what it's like to have zero hunger after 3 days of no food. I have plenty of energy to walk and lift light things, but I’m not ready for eight hours of hard labor during a water fast. When I’m in nutritional ketosis, I also have no hunger but I’m able to do heavy lifting and do a full eight hours of hard labor work without trouble. I'm guessing the body fat burns better when we eat fat and protein on eating days than when we water fast. But we have plenty of stored body fat to fuel us when we fast. So my question is this: why can't I do my normal routine that includes a very physically demanding job on just a water fast and have the same amount of energy as I experience in nutritional ketosis? It seems they are accomplishing the same thing and should work equally. What say you?

Steve

2. Does the autophagy that fasting produces cause any pain? And can that process prevent weight loss?

Hi Jimmy and Megan,

I’m currently in Day 7 of my fast and for the past three days my lower body, including my calves, quads, glutes, hips, and lower back, has been so sore that it has prevented me from getting adequate sleep. Full disclosure, these areas in particular are stressed in my daily life already. But fasting seems to make it worse. Could this pain be associated with the autophagy that is happening while I’m fasting? Could this be why I haven’t lost any weight during my fast? I’m consuming clear homemade vegetable broth made from carrots, onions, parsley, and celery over the past couple of days, so maybe there in an insulin response to consuming this. This has been a disaster for me and I’d love to hear your perspective on what might be going on. Thanks for considering my questions for your show.

Coeli

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3. Is it possible for someone with gastritis to fast and will it help heal the stomach? What about medications?

Hey guys,

I have a few nagging questions about fasting I’m hoping you can help me with. So what is someone with gastritis supposed to do with fasting when having an empty stomach with this condition is quite painful? Does fasting help heal the stomach? And what about medications that require food to be taken? How do you do that when you’re fasting?

Ginny

4. Is there anything different that needs to be done while fasting with adrenal issues?

Hello Jimmy and Megan,

My question is simple. Are there any special considerations that people with adrenal issues should be aware of when fasting? Thanks so much.

Christine

KEY QUOTE: “If you have a job that is physically demanding, maybe fast on the weekend and eat ketogenic during the week.” –  Jimmy Moore

5. Can a gastric sleeve making longer fasting contraindicative?

Hi Jimmy and Megan,

I had a gastric sleeve put on three years ago and I have been LCHF off and on for most of that time shifting to keto three months ago. I have been playing around with intermittent fasting since 2015 but decided to give an extended fast a go in 2017. My goal was to fast for as long as I could, but by Day 4 I started to feel nauseous and threw up after taking my salt in the morning. By Day 5 it got worse and I broke the fast. I actually felt so horrible that I called my doctor who recommended taking pain medications and rest. My blood pressure got very high during the fast and I felt so uncomfortable from this experience. Within a few days I felt better and was back to normal again. I don’t know why I reacted so badly, but was wondering if my gastric sleeve was the reason why my extended fasting attempt was an abysmal failure. Have you seen any patients in my situation who have had a similar experience? I really want to do extended fasts to experience the benefits that come from doing it.

Thanks for you help!

Daisy

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Feb 17, 2017

 

Veteran health podcaster, blogger, international speaker, and bestselling author Jimmy Moore from “Livin’ La Vida Low-Carb” teams up with Toronto, Ontario Canada-based nephrologist Dr. Jason Fung from IntensiveDietaryManagement.com and Dr. Fung’s Clinical Director at his Intensive Dietary Management Program clinic Megan Ramos on this podcast dedicated to answering YOUR questions about intermittent, alternate day, and extended fasting. Jimmy and Dr. Fung are the coauthors of the 2016 international bestseller The Complete Guide to Fasting: Heal Your Body Through Intermittent, Alternate-Day, and Extended Fasting and, along with Megan, are happy to provide this podcast as an additional resource for anyone curious about going on a fast to improve their health. We love hearing from our listeners with new questions–send an email to Jimmy at livinlowcarbman@charter.net. And if you’re not already subscribed to the podcast on iTunes, then you can do that and leave a review HERE. Listen in today as Jimmy and Megan are joined by Special Guest Patient Mark Dorley to talk about the real world benefits of fasting and answer your questions in Episode 7.

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SPECIAL GUEST PATIENT: Mark Dorley

Mark is a 41 year old 6'2" man that came to I.D.M. as a long distance patient in October 2016. After reaching a weight of over 470 pounds and dealing with joint pain, heel spurs, sleep apnea and full blown diabetes requiring multiple injections daily. Mark was slowly dying, and he knew he needed help.

Mark's mother sent him The Obesity Code in September 2016 and warned him that it might be considered controversial, but after reading it, he felt that the message was what he had been missing. In the short four month span since starting fasting and eating keto Mark has lost 100 pounds! More than the weight loss, in this short amount of time Mark has been able to remove the diabetes medicine and he believes that fasting has saved his life. His health markers are continually improving and he now enjoys more energy, mental clarity and better sleep.

KEY QUOTE: “You arive at a point in your mind where it's not a question of whether it will work for you. You just have to set  your mind to do it.” – Mark Dorley

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Here’s what Jimmy and Megan talked about in Episode 7:

1. How do I convince friends and family that fasting isn’t an eating disorder?

Hey Jimmy and Megan,

I love the Fasting Talk podcast. I have been keto for over two years losing 70 pounds with stellar blood work and I have dabbled in 24-hour fasts. But I have reservations about trying a 3-day fast. My biggest concern is about the social backlash I think I’ll experience. I have never had an eating disorder but my family and friends cannot (even after all this time) fathom that I’m cutting sugar and grains out of my diet—much less doing a fast! They were so resistant to my ketogenic lifestyle describing it as an eating disorder that the thought of fasting around them intimidates me.  What do you suggest?

Thanks so much!

Karen

KEY QUOTE: “If you have trouble sleeping, get up and do something productive. Your body will adjust and reset.” – Megan Ramos

 

2. Do your senses become more heightened by Day 4 of an extended fast and why?

I've noticed that when I fast for more than 3 days, my senses seem to become more heightened. Is there any explanation for this or similar experiences reported by other people who are fasting? Thank you and keep up the fantastic work!

Clyde

3. Is adding fat such as MCT oil to my tea going to stoke an insulin response during my fast?

I'm trying to use an eating plan Megan posted where she broke her fast with bone broth, salad with little or no protein, and green tea for lunch and then a small serving of meat with cooked non-starchy vegetables for dinner. My question stems from something Dr. Fung said about fat. Will having tea with MCT oil in the morning mess up my fast and produce an insulin response? I’m asking because obviously I don’t need insulin to not be released when I’m not eating.

Appreciate your response!

Jerilyn

4. How can you lower the tension that comes from fasting?

Hey guys, I’ve read The Complete Guide To Fasting and have watched a lot of Dr. Fung’s videos. I feel an increased amount of tension when I’m trying to fast that it depletes me of my willpower so much that I give up on it. I’ve suffered from varying degrees of clinical anxiety most of my life and being in ketosis is the closest to calm I’ve ever felt. I know that fasting would be extremely useful for controlling my weight and my anxiety, but I’m guessing the rise in adrenaline and cortisol are what make me feel so tense. Do you have any tricks for alleviating this feeling? I really want to keep fasting.

Thank you,

Elaine

KEY QUOTE: “The more you fast, you'll build up that fasting muscle a little bit more each time.” –  Jimmy Moore

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5. Does extended fasting lead to insomnia?

Hi Jimmy and Megan,

I'm on a 7-day fast (currently on Day 5) and I've found that over the last 3 nights I've had trouble sleeping. Is insomnia a common thing during fasting? If so, does it fade over time or the more you fast? I hope to move into an intermittent fasting protocol for long-term use and don't want to spend a couple of days per week with insomnia.

I’m not having any withdrawals from caffeine or anything else that would be keeping me awake. And I’ve been in a state of ketosis for over six months, so I’m already in fat-burning mode. My blood ketones were 3.8 mmol/L and blood glucose was 3.4 mmol/L (61 mg/dL) this afternoon and I feel great during the day without cravings or hunger pangs. Any help you can provide on this would be appreciated.

I absolutely love all your work and extend a heartfelt thanks for everything you've shared. It makes a huge difference and spreads beyond your direct audience.

Kind regards and enormous gratitude,

Andrew from Australia

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Feb 10, 2017

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Veteran health podcaster, blogger, international speaker, and bestselling author Jimmy Moore from "Livin' La Vida Low-Carb" teams up with Toronto, Ontario Canada-based nephrologist Dr. Jason Fung from IntensiveDietaryManagement.com and Dr. Fung's Clinical Director at his Intensive Dietary Management Program clinic Megan Ramos on this podcast dedicated to answering YOUR questions about intermittent, alternate day, and extended fasting. Jimmy and Dr. Fung are the coauthors of the 2016 international bestseller The Complete Guide to Fasting: Heal Your Body Through Intermittent, Alternate-Day, and Extended Fasting and, along with Megan, are happy to provide this podcast as an additional resource for anyone curious about going on a fast to improve their health. We love hearing from our listeners with new questions--send an email to Jimmy at livinlowcarbman@charter.net. And if you're not already subscribed to the podcast on iTunes, then you can do that and leave a review HERE. Listen in today as Jimmy and Megan answer your burning questions all about fasting in Episode 6.

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Here’s what Jimmy and Megan talked about in Episode 6:

- HOT TOPIC: Aren’t You Constantly Hungry When You Are Fasting?

KEY QUOTE: “Keep busy and schedule things that you like to do during meal times to take your mind off of eating.” – Megan Ramos

1. Is eating 500-1000 calories on days I intermittent fast going to lower my basal metabolic rate?

I find that when I intermittent fast for at least 18-24 hours, I usually only eat 500-1000 calories on those days. I eat about 46 grams of protein between one or two meals and less than 25 grams of carbs all from green leafy vegetables. The rest of my calories come from fat like butter, MCT oil, coconut oil, rendered bacon fat and olive oil. I only eat clean and avoid nuts, nut flour, artificial sweeteners, and all processed foods, and only eat 100% grass-fed and pastured meats, poultry, pork and eggs and wild fish. My blood glucose is excellent and I test my blood ketones regularly with readings always between 1.0-2.0 mmol.

Should I add more of something (probably fat) to bring up my calories on days I intermittent fast so as not to lower my basal metabolic rate? Is it a problem to only get 500-1000 on these days I do IF? I'm just not that hungry but could eat more if I had to. Thank you in advance for your help and thank you for all you guys do everyday!

With immense appreciation,

Deb

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2. Should I be concerned about developing gallstones while intermittent fasting?

I'm one of the genetically unlucky people whose blood sugar spikes on anything—even eating low-carb. I've lived a low-carb, gluten-free, sugar-free, Paleo, Specific Carbohydrate, and GAPS diet for many years but still have consistently high fasting sugars (6.5-7 mmol or 115-125 mg/dL) and am so insulin resistant with abdominal obesity rearing its ugly head. I've been a Jimmy Moore fan for ages but recently found Dr. Fung’s work and love what he’s doing because it makes so much sense.

I'm now eating within a 9-hour window but have in the past had acute gallstones on very low-calorie, rapid weight loss plans. Needless to say, I’m nervous about doing this or going longer in my fasting because of these fears. My health takes a big dive if I go to extremes like fasting with my thyroid issues (Hashimoto’s) and liver problems (extreme Gilbert's disease). Are people like me just not suited for fasting? And if fasting is helpful for me, then what would you recommend to avoid these gallstone problems?

Thanks for helping me with this issue!

Jayne

KEY QUOTE: “Fasting is not a fad diet with lots of rules to follow. It's simple, just don't eat.” – Jimmy Moore

3. Why am I not showing ketone production after four days of fasting?

I have been fasting for 96 consecutive hours and my Ketonix breath ketone meter is registering little to no ketones. After 96 hours, I must have depleted the glucose in my system by now. In my mind I have to be producing ketones but it’s not showing up on this meter. What could be going on here?

By the way, I’ve lost 39 pounds and 2 inches off my waist since September 15, 2016. I did enjoy three days of holiday eating with my family and fell out of ketosis after the third day. But I’ve been implementing fasting ever since and cannot get the Ketonix to register any ketones. Thanks in advance if you can offer any insights.

Dennis

4. How do I deal with the negative side effects that happen to me during an extended fast?

I have been on a ketogenic diet since April 2015 and decided to do a water-only fast in December 2016 to calibrate my new Ketonix breath ketone device. A 24-hour water fast is necessary to determine the low border and a 96 hour fast is necessary for the high border of my personal ketosis. I felt so good after four days that I decided to keep it going. Today is Day 6 and I’ve been having some problems since Day 3, including a general feeling of cold, pain in my calves, brain fog, and more. Is this normal? How can I resolve these issues and should I be concerned? Should I be supplementing my extended fast with salt, bone broth, and iodine?

I appreciate your answering my questions!

Dirk

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5. Is fasting a better option than the HCG diet to produce weight loss?

Is fasting similar do doing the HCG diet? I have done five rounds of it over the past years to lose weight that otherwise just doesn’t come off, but each time the weight came back on faster. And now not only can I not lose weight, I am continuing to gain and there doesn't seem to be an end in sight. I suspect HCG slowed my metabolism because of the low-calorie intake putting my body is survival mode holding on to fat. Is this what is happening?

After reading The Complete Guide To Fasting, it makes so much sense to me and I’m wondering if fasting would be a better option than the HCG diet. I'm at my heaviest weight ever and I'm very discouraged. Do you think fasting could help me? Please say yes.

Kelley

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– JIMMY AND DR. ADAM NALLY’S NEW SUPPLEMENT LINE: Try the KetoEssentials Multivitamin and Berberine Plus ketogenic-enhancing supplements
– SUPPORT OUR SPONSOR: Get the BRAND NEW 2017 Ketonix breath ketone analyzer from Ketonix.com
- Jimmy Moore from "Livin' La Vida Low-Carb"
- Dr. Jason Fung from Intensive Dietary Management
- Megan Ramos from Intensive Dietary Management
- The Complete Guide to Fasting: Heal Your Body Through Intermittent, Alternate-Day, and Extended Fasting
- Get the full audiobook read by Jimmy on Audible
- Fung Shweigh Facebook page

Feb 3, 2017

Veteran health podcaster, blogger, international speaker, and bestselling author Jimmy Moore from “Livin’ La Vida Low-Carb” teams up with Toronto, Ontario Canada-based nephrologist Dr. Jason Fung from IntensiveDietaryManagement.com and Dr. Fung’s Clinical Director at his Intensive Dietary Management Program clinic Megan Ramos on this podcast dedicated to answering YOUR questions about intermittent, alternate day, and extended fasting. Jimmy and Dr. Fung are the coauthors of the 2016 international bestseller The Complete Guide to Fasting: Heal Your Body Through Intermittent, Alternate-Day, and Extended Fasting and, along with Megan, are happy to provide this podcast as an additional resource for anyone curious about going on a fast to improve their health. We love hearing from our listeners with new questions–send an email to Jimmy at livinlowcarbman@charter.net. And if you’re not already subscribed to the podcast on iTunes, then you can do that and leave a review HERE. Listen in today as Jimmy and Jason answer your questions about all things fasting in Episode 5.

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Jimmy and Jason respond to Dr. Phinney's concerns about fasting in Episode 5:

- Labels fasting as a “fad” saying it will produce major pushback from the health authorities when people start dying suddenly
- Getting adequate fluid, potassium, and sodium with an intermittent fast up to 24 hours is benign
- After 24 hours of no calorie intake, the body starts breaking down protein from lean tissue
- By Day 3 of fasting, the rate of lean tissue loss is equivalent to 3/4 pound per day
- The data on extended fasting in THE COMPLETE GUIDE TO FASTING is misstated
- If someone fasts for three days a week, the amount of lean tissue lost is greater than the amount of lean tissue they can regain in the other four days
- Doesn’t believe that my 10-pound lean tissue loss (according to DXA) during my 28 of 31 day fast in January 2016 was water, claims it would take 40 days of eating again to recover this loss (actually a follow-up DXA two weeks later showed all of that 10-pound “lean tissue” loss was back on my body again—so he’s mistaken)
- When someone fasts for a prolonged period of time, you’re vulnerable to “refeeding syndrome” (WWII prison camp prisoners suddenly died when they were fed copious amounts of food following extended fasting)
- There’s an acute shift in minerals out of the bloodstream into the cells causing an impairment of heart function
- The Liquid Protein Diet is used as an example of sudden death from refeeding syndrome that was reported as happening because of ketones…it shut down the science on ketosis for two decades
- For some people, a 36-hour fast is fine as long as the other 5 1/2 days of eating have adequate minerals (apparent contradiction of his earlier statement)
- We need research that shows long-term, positive, sustainability for people who are fasting to reverse diabetes and reduce body fat that goes 1-2 years
- With two-week fasting or longer, the rate of protein breakdown comes down markedly. First day of fasting produces very little protein breakdown, the rate of protein breakdown peaks on the third day of fasting, by two weeks the lean tissue loss is about one-third pound lean tissue loss daily and at 28 days it’s a quarter-pound a day of lean tissue loss (another contradiction of earlier statements)
- If you only look at urea, then the lean tissue loss seems to be much less but ammonia, creatinine, and other byproducts all make up the lean tissue loss as well so urea doesn’t give the entire picture.
- It’s unethical to write a book telling people to start fasting on their own (and yet we mention to consult with a physician often throughout our book)
- I’m not saying fasting is wrong, but we don’t know what the truth is
- Getting adequate potassium and magnesium is critically important and you’re not getting these when you are fasting

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Jimmy Moore from “Livin’ La Vida Low-Carb”
Dr. Jason Fung from Intensive Dietary Management
Megan Ramos from Intensive Dietary Management
The Complete Guide to Fasting: Heal Your Body Through Intermittent, Alternate-Day, and Extended Fasting
– Get the full audiobook read by Jimmy on Audible
Fung Shweigh Facebook page

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